Re: chlorpyrifos

Loren Muldowney (loscott@envsci.rutgers.EDU)
Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:39:10 -0800

Wilson, Dale wrote:
> "Chemical trespass" is just some term you made up.

If my meaning is unclear, this was not my intention; allow me to spell
out the correct interpretation of this terminology.
"Trespass" in this sense is used to mean intrude or overstep a boundary.
Intrusion is the presence of someone or something into a place or
circumstance where it is unwelcome. The boundary being intruded in this
case is a person's body. The agent of the intrusion is a chemical.

> It has no legal meaning.

You may be correct about that. I am not using legal terminology, since
I have little expertise in that realm, and have no reason to believe
that you do either.
I am just using conversational English as understood by the educated
person who is not a legal specialist.

I find it quite interesting when a word used in the legal sense actually
has a meaning diametrically opposed to and contradictory to its meaning
in the standard spoken language of the people covered by that legal
system.

> And at the detection levels we are talking about, no biological meaning
> either.

What detection levels are those, exactly?

>>> Loren:
> > By this reasoning, if a person breaks into my home

Dale:
> I think you are setting up a straw-man argument here. These bad habits are
> not analogous to chemical residues in your foods, because the residues have
> no detectable effects.

This is an exact analogy, and not a straw man at all. You are comparing
presence of thing A with detectable effect of thing B, which is not a
logical analogy. I am comparing presence of thing A with presence of
thing B.

Structurally, what is the difference between an unwelcome intruder in my
home and an unwelcome chemical in my body? Both can be detected, one
visually and one by analytical chemistry. An intruder in my home may do
nothing but pass through. Maybe it's a short cut, right through my
living room. It would be difficult to detect an "effect" of such an
intrusion other than the sense of violation and threat experienced by my
family. It is the presence which *IS* the problem, because it is
unauthorized, unwelcome, not under the control of the individuals
intruded upon.

You appear to be making the case that, since chloropyrifos is a friend
of yours and you don't consider his visit an intrusion, I mustn't
either. I prefer to choose my own friends according to my own criteria.
I do not, however, insist that you must welcome MY friends into YOUR
home, in stark contrast to your position.

Loren

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