Re: Questions on organic livestock standards

Bargyla Rateaver (brateaver@earthlink.net)
Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:08:40 -0700

What else kind of thinking could you expect from that man?
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Alex McGregor wrote:

> Dale, Dale, Dale,
>
> Shame on you for saying, "your vision of "organic" agriculture is social
> and
> political, not biological." If anyone is trying to turn organic (notice-
> no
> quotes) agriculture into a social, political, or even economic issue,
> it's not
> farmers and especially not organic farmers.
>
> Please to note that we are the ones who have preserved the real form of
> traditional agriculture through the past 60 years or so. Now that it's
> popular,
> all the money -hungry yobs want to get a piece of the action and want to
> define
> organic as a marketing ploy.
>
> It's all about land stewardship, long term management decisions and
> rebuilding
> our soil base. Not how many bushels or dollars per acre. As I've said
> earlier
> and as Greg said in a recent post, "Besides, if the goal was to get rich
>
> wouldn't we do something besides farming anyhow?"
>
> Those practicing agriculture do it out of love for the work and because
> they
> have a special connection and intimacy with the land, plants and
> animals, which
> is hard for those without the calling find hard to understand. Those who
>
> practice agribusiness do it for very different reasons, the main one
> being the
> acquisition of money wealth.
>
> And I'll take that $4/hour. It'll be twice what I make now working 80
> hours/week, 9 months/year.
>
> Alex
> Poor in the bank, rich in the soul.
>
> "Wilson, Dale" wrote:
>
> > Greg,
> >
> > > Just to let everyone know, I strongly believe the same way as
> > > Gene Logsdon on organic production. The standards should be
> > > so strong that none of the big companies ever want to join in
> > > organic production.
> >
> > That's an interesting and revealing position. The bottom line in your
>
> > vision of "organic" agriculture is social and political, not
> biological.
> >
> > IMO, trying to keep the aggressive entrepreneurs out of the game will
> be
> > counterproductive. If there is money to be made in this business,
> > entrepreneurs, small, and maybe large, will be interested. The real
> meaning
> > of what you are saying is that you want to make the standards
> restrictive
> > and contrived enough to keep real wages of organic farmers at about
> four
> > dollars an hour.
> >
> > Dale
> >
> >
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