Re: Sustainability and Profitability

Steve Groff (sgroff@epix.net)
Sun, 21 Jun 1998 00:05:54 -0400

Greg,
Thanks a million for your practical "no non-sense" post on
sustainability and profitability!
You have spoken for many of us fulltime farmers who have a passion for
sustainability but are frustrated by the apparent lack understanding
some have about the importance of profitability (No, we are not greedy,
we just want to be able to pay the bills and leave our farm for the next
generation-a true sustainable plan indeed!).
I would encourage those of you who didn't read the post on the upcoming
sustainable field days with the Practical Farmers of Iowa to go back and
see for your self what famers are doing "in the field" that is
sustainable. This group is probably the most respected bunch of farmers
in "any" type of organized farm based research. Better yet, go to
several of these and see what's going on. I will guarantee, that
profitability of any given practise will be discussed. And be sure and
look at who some of the colaborators are also. We need to build bridges
with those who have influence in agriculture and not make war.

Greg & Lei Gunthorp wrote:
Farms have to be profitable enough to encourage future generations to
continue to farm.

As well as encourage aspiring farmers to start.

> Its great to talk about something but in less most farmers can see it
> working first hand, they aren't even going to consider it.
>
> This is why field days are sooo important. It is how I first became
> interested in sus. ag.
>
> For example, how many farmers even know of ATTRA or SARE?
>
> Not enough yet. I think these are the best programs that our gov. has
> implemented in the ag sector. Its a great use of our tax payers money.
>
>
> Which comes first the chicken or the egg? Do we encourage low
> input sustainable farms and allow a good percentage of these farms to
> see organic transition as an eventual step. (Some will never make the
> transition and can be perfectly sustainable!) Or do we encourage
> people to just give up chemicals without the whole management system
> that goes along with organic systems and watch them fall flat on their
> faces. Perhaps the rest of the country has better market
> infrastructure than Indiana, but there are only a few products which
> have legitimate organic markets in my area. We do have a lot of room
> for sustainable low cost producers to make money in conventional
> markets.
>
> Profitability is ultimately in marketing! Organics certianly has its
> place, but most of the successful organic growers I know around here
> are selling veggies in the big cities. Not all of us have that
> opportunity. I agree, there is room for a producer to make some money
> in the conventional market if he/she uses low cost practises.
> We need more sustainable family supporting farms. Profitability
> has to be a key issue on a sustainable operation. If an operation is
> truly sustainable, the support for the environment and community is
> going to be an added bonus. We need to put some more emphasis on what
> it takes to make farms profitable or we are going to be discussing the
> details of a sustainable agricutlure with NO farmers left.
>
> This is why I have suggested before that we need to look at the bigger
> picture.
>
> And there are increasingly more established farmers who are looking
> for profitable, lower risk alternatives to the capital intensive,
> industrialized agriculture. But if they wouldhappen to come across
> the SANET, I would think they would unsubscribe before they ever found
> anything useful.
>
> We are at a critical time for the future and "sustainability" of sus.
> ag. Are we going to emphasize and research the profitability of a
> given practice in light of its environmental friendliness or preach
> ideal pipe dreams?
> Steve Groff
> --

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Steve Groff
Cedar Meadow Farm
679 Hilldale Rd
Holtwood PA 17532 USA
Ph. 717-284-5152

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