can we assume that a lot of the food in the store does not come from
American farms but are crossing the border in big lots. can we assume that
most those pesticides come from the good old USA and the food is coming
back here. can we assume these trucks are not inspected very good so we
have no idea where what is going. can we assume that even if pesticides
are found unsafe in America the American farmer will fight to keep them
because of money. like methel bromine the state of Ca. says yes it is not
safe but we will use it for 5 more years because our farmers don't want to
loose money. Should we put money ahead of life? can we assume that the
farmer voting block will fight to keep their pesticides even like they
fought to keep DDT and many still wish they had that one even if moms
breast had more ddt than the law allowed. you can fool some of the people
most of the time. I don't want to be a white mouse so I buy organic,. as I
unlike the head of the USDA feel organic food is safer .
>> > Contamination of the local population has been documented,
>> > with women's breast milk containing concentrations of
>> > lindane, heptachlor, benzene hexachloride, aldrin and endrin
>> > all above limits established by the UN Food and Agricultural
>> > Organization.
>
>I would be inclined to believe this due to the exhorbident amounts of
>pesticides applied in this region.
>
I don't think so it may have more to do with the fact that we are the top
of the food chain and things build up and linger . The UN know we are
being poisoned and should put a stop to it. in the US some city can not
clean their water systems for pesticides and nitrates and the UN and world
know we are getting unsafe drinking water because of farmers and their love
of money .
>> > The second study group (17 children) live in the foothills,
>> > where most families are involved in ranching and pesticide
>> > use is minimal. Foothill residents use traditional methods of
>> > intercropping for pest control in gardens and rarely use
>> > insecticides indoors. Residents stated that their only
>> > exposure to pesticides is annual government spraying of DDT
>> > to combat malaria (this program is also carried out in the
>> > valley).
>
>So, could we assume that *possibly* the higher IQ'ed kids were exposed to DDT
>(banned in US) as well?
If it was banned in the US where did they get it? Banned in the US mean
nothing in this fast track world. how hard did those in power fight the
ban against DDT and do they still make it in the US. Does the US really
make pesticides and sell them that are ban in the US to other good folks
where it is not ban. are we still feeling the effects of DDT that the USDA
thought was so safe. hummm that is not very nice I guess the roosters
are coming home to roost and the food and pesticides are coming home on the
fast track. I feel at least with organic food you have much better chance
of making it through this time of transition.
>Let's use another analogy. Medications are much like pesticides- they are
both
>designed to kill a targeted organism. Taken at recommended doses they can be
>very effective and cause little harm. Taken frequently a person can become
>addicted and suffer other undesirable side effects that require even more
>medications to aleviate those side effects. Those same medications that can
>give *new life* to people who need them can also kill when high doses
lead to
>a toxic death. Some folks run to the local pharmacy at the first sign of a
>slight sniffle. Others choose to use time tested remedies that rely on
natural
>cures, and of course some use combinations of both methods. I'm sure you can
>see the paralells. Pesticides, like medicines, when used properly can be
>helpful. Drawing the line at where they can be helpful vs. harmful will
always
>be a scientific and philosopical debate.
I have a choice on medication whereas pesticides are everywhere and we are
the white mice.
I really like this one. yeah pesticides are like medicines and cars sure.
I guess it is easy to justify the need for poisoning the food and the water
and the earth . I feel organic food is safer. we are talking safer not
money . the big problem is that my life is more important than money . Who
got put in jail for the DDT thing. no one just like no one is held
responsible for todays pesticides because the jokers at USDA says organic
is not safer and they even kill off the Delainy and are not taking care of
the business of giving us safe food because they need votes they need that
hard money and that soft money. . I don't trust them I trust the organic
folks . I think those pesticides in the water should be cleaned up by those
big companies that make it. If you find it in the water and know what it
is make those that make the stuff clean it up. easy.
another thing i noticed about this news group . I thought the organic
grower would get a lot of help from those in sustainable ag as we are your
biggest fans and every organic grower i know think they are sustainable so
Why not get in our corner as we are in yours.
>Steve Groff
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>
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>Steve Groff
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>679 Hilldale Rd
>Holtwood PA 17532 USA
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>
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